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MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF INGLEBY BARWICK PARISH COUNCIL, HELD AT ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI CHURCH CENTRE, BARWICK WAY, INGLEBY BARWICK, ON WEDNESDAY 26TH APRIL 2006, COMMENCING AT 7.15 P.M.
Chairman: Councillor Mrs I. Machin;
Councillors: W. Feldon, N. Morrison, R. Patterson and Mrs S. Rouse;
Ingleby Barwick East K. Faulks;
Barwick West K.
Clerk/Responsible Financial Officer: Paula M. Hall;
PC K. Stockley, Community Police Officer, Ingleby Barwick;
Mr N. Scott, Scott Bros Haulage and Plant Hire;
Mr P. Nelson, Nunthorpe Nurseries;
Mr I. Howlett, Nunthorpe Nurseries;
Ms J. Taylor, Nunthorpe Nurseries;
Mr W. Barnett, idPartnership;
Representatives from the Press: Evening Gazette, Northern
90 Members of the public attended the meeting.
APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE.
Apologies for absence were received from Parish Councillors T.W. Bowman; Ms J. Morrison; D. Scott who did not attend due to his personal/prejudicial interest in Agenda Item No. 4 (b) and Ward Councillor Lee Narroway (Ingleby Barwick West).
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The Chairman thanked the members of the public present for attending the meeting. It was requested that people maintain proper order throughout the proceedings and practice good citizenship. It was emphasised that although the Parish Council are consulted on planning applications and can submit its views for consideration by Stockton-on-Tees Borough Council (S.B.C.), the final decision still however remains with S.B.C.
221. CODE OF CONDUCT – DECLARATION OF INTERESTS.
Councillor R. Patterson declared that he was attending the meeting only in his capacity as Ward Councillor representing Ingleby Barwick West and not as a Parish Councillor. He stated that he was solely here to listen to the debate on the following items on the Agenda, as he sits on S.B.C. Planning Committee:
Agenda Item 4 (a) - Planning Application No. 06/0823/OUT
PROPOSAL: Revised Outline Application for
Approval in Principle of Mixed Use Development
with Associated Car Parking and Means of Access
and Hard and Soft Landscaping
LOCATION: Site North of
Agenda Item 4 (b) - Planning Application No. 06/1037/REV
PROPOSAL: Revised Application for Indoor
Childrens Play Area and Creche with Outdoor Sports
Facilities and Associated Landscaping and Parking
LOCATION: Land on Corner of
Councillor Patterson then vacated his seat at the Parish Council bench and stood at the rear of the meeting room for the duration of the proceedings.
Councillor W. Feldon stated that he represents Ingleby Barwick Parish
Council on Thornaby and Ingleby Barwick Football Club’s Management Committee and
he is also a school governor at St. Francis of
No further interests were declared.
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222. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
The Chairman outlined the Parish Council’s policy on the 10 minutes allocation for public participation.
The public present were then asked if they wanted to raise any matters at this point other that issues relevant to the planning applications at Agenda Items 4 (a) and 4 (b).
The Chairman stated that the public attending would be given the opportunity to raise any issues in relation to the two planning applications when each is considered in turn by the Parish Council.
No further matters were raised.
223. PLANNING APPLICATION NO. 06/0823/OUT
PROPOSAL: REVISED OUTLINE APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL IN PRINCIPLE OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH ASSOCIATED CAR PARKING AND MEANS OF ACCESS AND HARD AND SOFT LANDSCAPING.
SITE NORTH OF
The Chairman began by briefly outlining the proposal.
The public attending were then given the opportunity to raise any comments.
Residents expressed their concerns in respect of the proposed ‘business park’, which was said to be preposterous. It was noted that the wind turbines to be provided within the development were more suited to an industrial estate and not a residential area.
Concerns were raised in respect of the traffic which would be generated by the proposed development, adding to the already congested junctions in the vicinity of the ‘main centre’ of Ingleby Barwick.
It was suggested that the area be left as a greenbelt, as there is very limited open space in Ingleby Barwick.
It was confirmed to the residents that the proposed site is designated
‘white land’ in
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It was questioned as to who had paid for the existing trees to be planted on the site?
It was confirmed to the public attending that all Members of the Parish Council are residents of Ingleby Barwick. It was also noted that the Parish Council continually raise the issue of traffic concerns in Ingleby Barwick and take it into account when submitting comments to S.B.C. on planning applications.
A general discussion then took place on what had been promised in the ‘Master Plan’ for Ingleby Barwick including facilities and open green spaces.
Concerns were again raised by the public attending in respect of the location of the development, which was said to be totally unsuitable for the proposal.
It was noted that the proposed facilities on offer within this development are not required and duplicate other things provided in the close proximity i.e. pub/restaurant, gym, nursery etc.
It was suggested that there is only one of the proposed things needed which already has outlining planning approval for the site and that is the Community Hall. However, concerns were raised that no one has been forthcoming in offering to take on the management of it.
Mr W. Barnett introduced himself at this point and indicated that idPartnership are the Agents working on behalf of Nunthorpe Nurseries. He confirmed that the land is designated white land and part of the site does already have outline planning permission for a Nursery and a Community Hall, which subject to the approval of ‘Reserved Matters’ they could begin to construct in a matter of weeks if they so wished. It was noted that the application currently being considered is purely outline, which if approved, would then go through S.B.C. for the final design.
A resident questioned as to what the benefits would be for the Community of Ingleby Barwick if the proposal was approved.
Mr Barnett informed that the proposed site is 3 hectares; 2 hectares would be developed and the remaining 1 hectare gifted to the Community as ‘public open space’.
Mr Barnett noted that the proposed development would be self sustained. The Parish Council and residents could be included in the ongoing design exercise in respect of the details.
Residents, once again raised the issue of traffic concerns.
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Mr Barnett informed that the applicant had been asked to do a Traffic Impact Assessment, which had been undertaken on their behalf by Cundall. A report was produced, which was submitted with the planning application.
The agent was asked as to why there was a need for offices when just along the road at Bowesfield there is new office accommodation available.
It was noted that the office accommodation in the proposal is for small/medium enterprises and would give the opportunity for people to have their own premises, offering sustainability.
It was again questioned that the facilities being provided were being duplicated to those within the nearby vicinity i.e. public house, gym, nursery and medical centre. It was noted that the Beckfields Medical Centre has now had change of use approved to an Estate Agents.
Residents expressed their concerns that they had not been consulted on what was being proposed on the site prior to submission of the planning application.
Mr Barnett confirmed that the Transportation Assessment Report is dated March 2006. However, it was highlighted during the meeting quite importantly, that the traffic survey information used within the document is somewhat out of date, as the junction surveys date between December 2004 and April 2005.
It was suggested that more up to date surveys would have been more appropriate.
Concerns were again expressed by residents in connection with the wind turbines, which are found in other areas to be quite noisy.
It was suggested that the land would inevitably be built on at some point, however a more appropriate use would be provision of a Youth Centre and the remaining land used for the expansion of All Saints Secondary School.
Traffic concerns were reiterated,
It was noted that
the proposed development is adjacent to All Saints Secondary School and
Mr Barnett confirmed that the application conforms to ‘safety by design’, with improved crossing facilities incorporated.
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It was suggested that once approval was acquired, what actually is provided on the site would be altered.
The agent was commended for a very professional job done for his Client, which the government would be very pleased with however it was noted that there is a difference between what the government would want and what is wanted by the community of Ingleby Barwick.
PC Stockley noted that there is a lack of facilities for the youth of Ingleby Barwick and thought needs to be given to what is required for the young people.
Any proposed development should be to the benefit of Ingleby Barwick.
It was reported that Ingleby Barwick still remains a low crime area.
It was suggested that no further bricks be laid in Ingleby Barwick until the road situation is sorted out, as the current road network is designed for lower housing density.
It was confirmed that the wind turbines would be in the region of 5m high.
The suitability of wind turbines within a residential area was again questioned; however a member of the public attending did raise some positive comments.
Residents stated that over the last 25 years what has been built in Ingleby Barwick has been led by the developers; however it was now time for the community to have their say.
The agent confirmed that the principle of the proposed development is established however they are not adverse to reasoned debate for change. The proposal needs to be the right mix in order to make a positive contribution to the community.
It was noted that the traffic information had not been agreed by the 6 IBIS Ward Councillors. IBIS are currently working on the lack of facilities in Ingleby Barwick and a plan is being produced which will be coming out to consultation in the near future.
A general positive comment was made in support of the proposal which was said to be an interesting development.
The Chairman thanked Mr Barnett for attending the meeting and for the responses he provided.
The Chairman suggested to the residents present that they send their individual letters to S.B.C.
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The Parish Council considered all of the information provided in respect of this planning application.
RESOLVED that the Parish Council object to the proposed development on the following grounds:
This project represents a serious over-development of the site which is at present open space.
As there is already very limited open space in Ingleby Barwick any loss of space would be undesirable.
There is already a nursery, a health and fitness gym and a public house within 200 yards of the site. To duplicate these facilities threatens the viability of all of them. Also, there is new office space at both Preston Farm and Teesside Industrial Estate’s, the further provision within this development is therefore unjustified.
Residents have raised concerns to the Parish Council in respect of the proposed wind turbines within the development, which they feel would be visually obtrusive, cause noise disturbance and are generally unsuitable for a residential area.
The detailed transport assessment by Cundall is impressive only for its detail. The conclusion that there are no traffic or transportation related reasons that should prevent planning permission being granted is not justified by the evidence presented.
It is noted quite importantly that the traffic survey information used within the document is somewhat out of date, as the junction surveys date between December 2004 and April 2005.
The admission that the junctions in the area are already subject to congestion at peak times in no way justifies the claim that the effect of this development on traffic will be minimal.
The increased traffic and congestion, which this development will generate is a reason to refuse this application.
The proposed development
is adjacent to All Saints Secondary School and
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224. PLANNING APPLICATION NO. 06/1037/REV
PROPOSAL: REVISED APPLICATION FOR INDOOR CHILDRENS PLAY AREA AND CRECHE WITH OUTDOOR SPORTS FACILITIES AND ASSOCIATED LANDSCAPING AND PARKING.
LAND ON CORNER OF
The Chairman introduced Mr N. Scott, Business Development Manager, Mr Twisters.
It was noted that when the application had been submitted previously there had been a lot of misinformation. Care should be taken therefore when making an informed opinion on the current application.
The Chairman then went on to read out her own personal thoughts on the application and noted that there is great demand in Ingleby Barwick for facilities for young people. It is also a key priority of the Eastern Area Partnership Board. This proposal promises to cater for the very young to teenagers and although it is a commercial enterprise, it has the advantage that the facilities are supervised and attended at all times.
The site is however designated Green Wedge and it is arguable whether the facility comes within the definition of what is allowable on Green Wedge. It was suggested that the tennis court and all weather multi-use sports area would be acceptable on green wedge.
The site is 8.065 acres; 2.66 acres of which would be taken over by the building and the car park; that leaves 6 acres which will be left as open land.
There is a broad belt of woodland around the Bassleton Beck which provides a good screen and the building is placed as far away as the site allows, however Hollybush cottages may have grounds for complaint.
If we are to have facilities for young people we have to ask: where is the land that could be used? There is none. The authority itself had to use Green Wedge for the latest primary school.
Access to the proposal will be from
Road Safety needs taking into account; it is questionable that there should
be a no right turn for vehicles entering from
The provision of CCTV should also be considered, which could maybe be included as a planning condition.
Public attending the meeting questioned as to why the Indoor Play Area was not being placed on Teesside Industrial Estate, which would be much more suitable for a building of this size and nature.
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However, it was also pointed out that if sited on the Industrial Estate
there would be problems crossing the busy
Mr Scott informed that it was previously the company’s policy to use industrial estates however over more recent times they have moved on to change this and provide the facilities at suitable accessible locations.
A resident attending from Hollybush cottages expressed concerns that the building would overshadow their bungalow and put it in the shade. It was noted that their conifer hedge has now been cut down.
Concerns were raised that the proposed development which would be a tourist attraction would generate a lot of traffic.
Mr Scott informed that the proposal is subject to a traffic impact assessment, which is currently under consideration by S.B.C.
Residents reiterated their concerns in respect of traffic issues.
PC Stockley added that the levels of crime and disorder are low in Ingleby Barwick. Any facilities provided should be in a safe accessible environment.
It was questioned as to what trees would be removed?
It was noted that the trees are subject to preservation orders and that
all the boundary trees are to be retained, however access into the site would
need to be provided from
It was noted by residents that Hawthorn bushes are classed as round headed deciduous trees.
An ecology survey of the site is currently being carried out.
It was questioned as to why the hedge line was not shown in the correct position.
Mr Scott informed that he would investigate the matter and reply to the Parish Clerk.
A member of the public attending the meeting stated that although he is a member of Thornaby Town Council he was speaking solely as an individual resident of Thornaby. He noted that he is aware of 350 objections to the proposal, of which the majority state that they are not opposed to a Mr Twisters and welcome the facility however the proposed site is green wedge and this should be protected from development.
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It was noted that there are government policies protecting development of green wedge. It was suggested once again that the development would be more suited to Teesside Industrial Estate.
A general discussion then took place with various issues raised.
A number of comments were raised in support of the proposal, with particular regard to the much needed facilities for Ingleby Barwick.
The advantages of having such a facility on Ingleby Barwick’s doorstep were highlighted. Accessibility was noted as a big plus as people could walk/cycle to the location.
Concerns were raised that residents objecting to the proposal were not considering the wider picture and the overall need for facilities.
It was confirmed that if approval was received the use of the site would be as applied for.
It was confirmed that the building will be serviced via the car park.
It was questioned whether the access into the development could be ‘gated’ to restrict cars entering once the building/facilities are closed. The possibility of this, as well as general security and CCTV are to be looked into by the applicant.
A general discussion took place on use of the facilities, including the possibility of school coach parties.
It was noted that Mr Twisters would provide a very good facility, however it was reiterated that the building itself would be more suited to Teesside Industrial Estate.
It was noted that due regard should be paid to any concerns raised by the occupants of Hollybush Cottages, as this development would have an impact on them.
The possibility of the site being used by Thornaby and Ingleby Barwick
Football Club was raised. The Club is
currently looking for land to provide three extra football training pitches,
which will prevent them having to pay for the use of other pitches in the local
area. The Club is quite keen to develop
a ‘Sports Club’ which could incorporate tennis courts, netball and basket ball
courts, plus a
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The Club is looking to offer their facilities on
It was noted that Ingleby Barwick is in need of facilities for the children, however concerns were raised in respect of health and safety issues in connection with this site with regard to the overhead cables, gas main etc.
It was stated that it is the responsibility of every Community to safeguard its Green Wedge and that specific Government guidelines are in place.
It was noted that the recent Planning Inspector’s Report in connection with the proposed mast in the vicinity of the site, made reference to the trees in this area not being in good health, which would limit long term screening.
The Parish Council considered all of the information provided in respect of this planning application.
RESOLVED that the Parish Council supports the proposed development on the following grounds:
Ingleby Barwick Parish Council is in support of this planning application as there is an overwhelming need in Ingleby Barwick for facilities for young people.
‘Facilities for Young People’ is also a key priority of the Eastern Area Partnership Board.
This facility, although technically not located within Ingleby Barwick, promises to cater for the very young up to teenagers. It is a commercial enterprise, but has the advantage that the facilities are supervised and attended at all times.
It is noted however that ideally the building itself would be much better suited to Teesside Industrial Estate.
The proposed site is designated ‘Green Wedge’ within Stockton-on-Tees Local Plan and it is arguable whether the facility comes within the definition of what is allowable on Green Wedge. Certainly some of it does i.e. the tennis court and all weather multi-use sports area are acceptable on Green Wedge. There are 8.065 acres in all; 2.66 acres will be taken over by the building and car park, which leaves in the region of 6 acres left as open land.
There is a broad belt of woodland around Bassleton Beck, which provides a good screen from nearby residents and the building is placed as far away as the site allows.
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However, Hollybush cottages may have grounds for complaint as they are sited in the close vicinity of the development.
Access to the
site will be from
Consideration should be given to the provision of CCTV at the site as well as other means of security e.g. gated access and fencing where appropriate, which could be made a planning condition.
225. INGLEBY BARWICK PARISH COUNCIL – OFFICE ACCOMMODATION.
The Clerk reported that she is still awaiting a response from Robinson’s in respect of the possibility of a five year lease.
226. FINANCE: ACCOUNTS FOR PAYMENT.
RESOLVED that the following amounts be approved for payment:
Paula M. Hall – reimbursement of expenses/administration Costs:
Travel costs incurred in respect of the ‘Quality Council’s’ Event
Train tickets for the Chairman and Clerk of the Parish Council £ 14.35
Stationery/Photocopies – as per list circulated to members and
held in the Parish Council’s records: £ 116.60